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old or new still contain unreleased music that still has not been officially released?? I would think in 2025 that number has become less and less over the years because of the FTD label, but does anyone keep track of this at all?? thanks
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I copied this internet article some years ago:
Songs that Elvis is rumored to have performed or recorded
For all the songs that Elvis recorded over his remarkable career, there seem to be as many that he is rumored to have recorded or performed live. Some of the titles may be wishful thinking, but other long-rumored songs have appeared in recent years, so you never know what’s coming around the bend.
One Too Many Rumors …by Shane Paterson
Way Too Many Rumors – Tripod
This is a list of songs I’ve accumulated over the past 20 years or so that Elvis is rumored to have recorded, or done live, or both. For the most part, I have attempted to exclude songs that I KNOW exist and might become available, such as many that I’ve managed to confirm were done on stage 1969-77 (either through hearing it on a concert tape, or through concert info provided by others who have the show on tape, or through looking at old newspapers). I have included a very few exceptions — so noted — because I haven’t heard those songs for myself and I’m not sure how likely their existence is.
If you haven’t seen much of this type of thing before, you’ll be amazed at the sheer volume of material that Elvis is said to have recorded. Enough for a box set or two. I honestly doubt that most of the claims are true. However, if even a very small percentage turn out to be based in reality, we could have ourselves an album or two of new songs (as opposed to “new” alternate versions or takes of a song, which is a whole other story).
Some of the songs below may be on the list because, somewhere along the way, somebody wished that Elvis had recorded a certain song. Here’s a few other possible ways that the number of “never-before-heard” songs could have become so inflated:
1. RCA or a film company uses several working titles for a song — an example is that “Fall in Love With You” is the title on MGM‘s acetate of “Anyone.”
2. RCA misidentifies a song – for example, in 1972 some Bozo failed to recognize a live recording of the classic “Reconsider, Baby” and titled it “A Blues Jam”. DUH! Who were they letting near these tapes?
3. A newspaper reporter, or any other source, makes a mistake (on the other hand, maybe it really IS a new song) — this is probably one of the major ways in which a new song is “created.” For example, the 8/8/63 Memphis Press-Scimitar mentioned that Elvis and Ann Margret did a song called “Love You, Baby” for “Viva Las Vegas”. It might have been “C’mon Everybody”, though that’s still kind of a stretch. The 10/29/57 Los Angeles Examiner, in a review of the manic Pan-Pacific concerts the night before, mentioned the songs “Dreamy Eyes” and “Be Woman Blues” (on which Elvis played piano). These must be “Treat Me Nice” (with the patented Elvis slurring of the words put to good effect) and “Mean Woman Blues”. Given the noise level and general pandemonium of a ’50s Elvis concert, and the fact that many of these concert critics were not very familiar with that kind of music, it’s understandable how such mistakes could arise. Another example that springs to mind is a 1957 concert review that mentions a song, called “Buttercup,” that I am sure has to be “All Shook Up” (which includes that word quite prominently), and that revelation led me to question the authenticity of the 1957 live song “Butterfly” until I found out it was a song attributed to a couple of songwriters that actually did exist. For the record, I haven’t seen “Buttercup”, “Love You, Baby”,”Dreamy Eyes”, or “Be Woman Blues” on anyone’s list of unreleased Elvis tunes.
4. another recording artist, using the same studio on an alternating basis with Elvis, might somehow mess up things as far as matrix numbers go, and introduce titles into the session notes which were not done by Elvis. I’m not sure how this could happen, but anything’s possible.
5. a demo record is made for Elvis but, after listening to it on the studio speakers, he declines to record the song. Then, either the song gets listed in the studio notes somehow, or the voice in the demo disk, which falls into the hands of collectors, is mistaken for Elvis, I suspect that this has happened a lot and contributed significantly to this list.
6. the backing track for a song (this wouldn’t apply to the ’50s sessions) is laid down and Elvis never records a vocal.
7. sloppy session notes allow plenty of room for imaginations to run wild (which explains why there are a plethora of titles supposedly recorded at Sun).
8. a music folio, or similar, comes out which includes titles Elvis was not known to have recorded — the classic example is the 1955 “The Elvis Presley Album of Jukebox Favorites,” which included 11 songs now rumored to have been recorded while Elvis was at Sun. Although these songs were undoubtedly added by the publisher as padding for the four Elvis songs included, it is nevertheless possible that some of them were recorded or done live. I have also seen songs like “Sixteen Tons” (which Elvis owned the publishing rights to), “Please Help Me, I’m Falling,” and “Hello, Mary Lou” in Elvis song folios.
9. a scheduled recording session is cancelled and notes remain on what was to be recorded — surprisingly, none (as far as I can tell) of the songs that were set for these non-events have made it on to this list, which I suppose is a good sign.
10. more than one song is submitted for certain movie scenes (the songwriters basically competed to write songs for the scenes described to them, or with a specific title) but Elvis only records one — alternately, Elvis may well have recorded more than one song that shared the same title on occasion.
By the way, I’m not a complete skeptic, I just don’t want to be disappointed when it turns out that Elvis never recorded “Since I Met You, Baby” (incidentally, that’s not a song that’s on the list, but its appearance in the excellent Elvis TV series a while back, and in the abysmal “Elvis And The Beauty Queen,” could get it a place even in the absence of other evidence, and it’s quite possible Elvis did record this tailor-made song…its first cousin — “I Almost Lost My Mind” — IS on this list). On the other hand, I wouldn’t be disappointed at all if it turns out that Elvis never turned his vocal cords on “Feelings” (which IS on the list, and is one of the more likely candidates). The number of unreleased Beatles songs that turn up on record (bootleg) these days give us hope that quite a few of the following are songs that Elvis actually did during his career, which was considerably longer than the time the Beatles existed as a group, and that they actually are preserved on tape and will surface on day (probably illegally, the way RCA goes about releasing Elvis material as if they’re waiting for the last Elvis fan alive prior to 1977 to die off). The release of a few songs (on bootleg or RCA) over the last decade or so shows that there is always hope that something new, perhaps not even from this list, will show up.
On several occasions during the 1980s, RCA insisted that they had no “new” songs, other than the track “Dominick,” and that the only things remaining unreleased were alternate takes of songs already familiar to us from the regular RCA releases. Since then we’ve had things surface on RCA records like the fast version of “Ain’t That Lovin’ You, Baby”, original versions of other songs that were believed lost (“Beyond The Reef” and “Tomorrow Night”), “Fool, Fool, Fool,” “My Happiness,” “Hearts Of Stone,” “Plantation Rock,” “Black Star,” “You’re The Boss,” “A Hundred Years From Now,” a studio rehearsal of “It’s Different Now,” a 1971 studio version of “My Way,” a slew of home recordings and rehearsals, and studio jams like “This Time/I Can’t Stop Loving You,” “Tiger Man,” and “Lady Madonna,” etc. Some of these songs were previously on this list, though much has come straight out of the blue. A recent example of one of the “lost” songs that has surfaced is Elvis’ acetate of “I’ll Never Stand In Your Way” (for which I had the following entry: ” 1/4/54; recorded at Sun later in 1954 or 55; supposedly bought by Sean O’Neal in 1993 and possibly sold to RCA in January, 1995″…it came out on the “Platinum” set in 1997). “Stagger Lee” and “Cotton Fields” are two recent examples of songs that graduated from the list to reality (via bootleg release of a 1970 rehearsal) and a few of the others that made the leap into reality and availability are mentioned elsewhere in this listing.
The slow version of “Stay Away,” also on this list previously, has since been released by bootleggers and by at least one of RCA-BMG’s international branches. Bootleggers and the archives of private collectors indicate that there’s even more, and it may turn out that rehearsals, in addition to taped studio jams, may provide the richest yield of songs we haven’t heard Elvis do in any form to date — “Alla En El Rancho Grande” and “Froggy Went A-Courtin'” are but two examples. One song that was on this list — “Wings of An Angel” (a.k.a. “The Prisoner’s Song”) — recently appeared on a bootleg, and was a studio jam from 1968. Elvis’ normal way of conducting business in the studio was to do a lot of jamming before formal recording and between takes — leading to him walking out of the studio in 1957 when an executive insisted it was about time Elvis quit messing around with gospel songs and get started on recording of the “Jailhouse Rock” soundtrack.
In 1977 RCA released the album “Moody Blue,” which included (more as “padding,” supposedly) the live songs “Little Darlin’,” “If You Love Me,” and “Unchained Melody,” as well as a re-release of the 3/20/74 Memphis version of “Let Me Be There.” Why they would do this if they had access to all the studio-recorded songs rumored to remain unreleased from the ’70s (for that matter, some that have subsequently been released by RCA) remains a mystery. “There’s A Fire Down Below,” for example, was recorded at the same sessions as “Way Down” (etc.) and it is possible Elvis recorded a vocal track, depending upon who you believe. The fact that RCA released such an album doesn’t give much credence to the possibility of a number of ’70s songs remaining unreleased. On the other hand, RCA’s release policies never did make a whole lot of sense. The same goes for the amateur-recorded “America, The Beautiful” and “Softly As I Leave You” released in 1978: it’s now looking like RCA has their hands (or can easily GET their hands) on studio-quality tapes made from the soundboard at many, if not most (all?) of Elvis’ concerts 1969-77. More and more of these excellent tapes are surfacing among collectors and on recent bootlegs — whether RCA had them in 1977 and 1978 is another story, perhaps, but they definitely have at least some of the tapes now and they must contain a wealth of unreleased performances and even the occasional “one-off” song like “Aubrey,” “You’re My Reason For Living,” or “When The Snow Is On The Roses.”
Songs that Elvis is rumored to have performed or recorded
For all the songs that Elvis recorded over his remarkable career, there seem to be as many that he is rumored to have recorded or performed live. Some of the titles may be wishful thinking, but other long-rumored songs have appeared in recent years, so you never know what’s coming around the bend.
One Too Many Rumors …by Shane Paterson
Way Too Many Rumors – Tripod
This is a list of songs I’ve accumulated over the past 20 years or so that Elvis is rumored to have recorded, or done live, or both. For the most part, I have attempted to exclude songs that I KNOW exist and might become available, such as many that I’ve managed to confirm were done on stage 1969-77 (either through hearing it on a concert tape, or through concert info provided by others who have the show on tape, or through looking at old newspapers). I have included a very few exceptions — so noted — because I haven’t heard those songs for myself and I’m not sure how likely their existence is.
If you haven’t seen much of this type of thing before, you’ll be amazed at the sheer volume of material that Elvis is said to have recorded. Enough for a box set or two. I honestly doubt that most of the claims are true. However, if even a very small percentage turn out to be based in reality, we could have ourselves an album or two of new songs (as opposed to “new” alternate versions or takes of a song, which is a whole other story).
Some of the songs below may be on the list because, somewhere along the way, somebody wished that Elvis had recorded a certain song. Here’s a few other possible ways that the number of “never-before-heard” songs could have become so inflated:
1. RCA or a film company uses several working titles for a song — an example is that “Fall in Love With You” is the title on MGM‘s acetate of “Anyone.”
2. RCA misidentifies a song – for example, in 1972 some Bozo failed to recognize a live recording of the classic “Reconsider, Baby” and titled it “A Blues Jam”. DUH! Who were they letting near these tapes?
3. A newspaper reporter, or any other source, makes a mistake (on the other hand, maybe it really IS a new song) — this is probably one of the major ways in which a new song is “created.” For example, the 8/8/63 Memphis Press-Scimitar mentioned that Elvis and Ann Margret did a song called “Love You, Baby” for “Viva Las Vegas”. It might have been “C’mon Everybody”, though that’s still kind of a stretch. The 10/29/57 Los Angeles Examiner, in a review of the manic Pan-Pacific concerts the night before, mentioned the songs “Dreamy Eyes” and “Be Woman Blues” (on which Elvis played piano). These must be “Treat Me Nice” (with the patented Elvis slurring of the words put to good effect) and “Mean Woman Blues”. Given the noise level and general pandemonium of a ’50s Elvis concert, and the fact that many of these concert critics were not very familiar with that kind of music, it’s understandable how such mistakes could arise. Another example that springs to mind is a 1957 concert review that mentions a song, called “Buttercup,” that I am sure has to be “All Shook Up” (which includes that word quite prominently), and that revelation led me to question the authenticity of the 1957 live song “Butterfly” until I found out it was a song attributed to a couple of songwriters that actually did exist. For the record, I haven’t seen “Buttercup”, “Love You, Baby”,”Dreamy Eyes”, or “Be Woman Blues” on anyone’s list of unreleased Elvis tunes.
4. another recording artist, using the same studio on an alternating basis with Elvis, might somehow mess up things as far as matrix numbers go, and introduce titles into the session notes which were not done by Elvis. I’m not sure how this could happen, but anything’s possible.
5. a demo record is made for Elvis but, after listening to it on the studio speakers, he declines to record the song. Then, either the song gets listed in the studio notes somehow, or the voice in the demo disk, which falls into the hands of collectors, is mistaken for Elvis, I suspect that this has happened a lot and contributed significantly to this list.
6. the backing track for a song (this wouldn’t apply to the ’50s sessions) is laid down and Elvis never records a vocal.
7. sloppy session notes allow plenty of room for imaginations to run wild (which explains why there are a plethora of titles supposedly recorded at Sun).
8. a music folio, or similar, comes out which includes titles Elvis was not known to have recorded — the classic example is the 1955 “The Elvis Presley Album of Jukebox Favorites,” which included 11 songs now rumored to have been recorded while Elvis was at Sun. Although these songs were undoubtedly added by the publisher as padding for the four Elvis songs included, it is nevertheless possible that some of them were recorded or done live. I have also seen songs like “Sixteen Tons” (which Elvis owned the publishing rights to), “Please Help Me, I’m Falling,” and “Hello, Mary Lou” in Elvis song folios.
9. a scheduled recording session is cancelled and notes remain on what was to be recorded — surprisingly, none (as far as I can tell) of the songs that were set for these non-events have made it on to this list, which I suppose is a good sign.
10. more than one song is submitted for certain movie scenes (the songwriters basically competed to write songs for the scenes described to them, or with a specific title) but Elvis only records one — alternately, Elvis may well have recorded more than one song that shared the same title on occasion.
By the way, I’m not a complete skeptic, I just don’t want to be disappointed when it turns out that Elvis never recorded “Since I Met You, Baby” (incidentally, that’s not a song that’s on the list, but its appearance in the excellent Elvis TV series a while back, and in the abysmal “Elvis And The Beauty Queen,” could get it a place even in the absence of other evidence, and it’s quite possible Elvis did record this tailor-made song…its first cousin — “I Almost Lost My Mind” — IS on this list). On the other hand, I wouldn’t be disappointed at all if it turns out that Elvis never turned his vocal cords on “Feelings” (which IS on the list, and is one of the more likely candidates). The number of unreleased Beatles songs that turn up on record (bootleg) these days give us hope that quite a few of the following are songs that Elvis actually did during his career, which was considerably longer than the time the Beatles existed as a group, and that they actually are preserved on tape and will surface on day (probably illegally, the way RCA goes about releasing Elvis material as if they’re waiting for the last Elvis fan alive prior to 1977 to die off). The release of a few songs (on bootleg or RCA) over the last decade or so shows that there is always hope that something new, perhaps not even from this list, will show up.
On several occasions during the 1980s, RCA insisted that they had no “new” songs, other than the track “Dominick,” and that the only things remaining unreleased were alternate takes of songs already familiar to us from the regular RCA releases. Since then we’ve had things surface on RCA records like the fast version of “Ain’t That Lovin’ You, Baby”, original versions of other songs that were believed lost (“Beyond The Reef” and “Tomorrow Night”), “Fool, Fool, Fool,” “My Happiness,” “Hearts Of Stone,” “Plantation Rock,” “Black Star,” “You’re The Boss,” “A Hundred Years From Now,” a studio rehearsal of “It’s Different Now,” a 1971 studio version of “My Way,” a slew of home recordings and rehearsals, and studio jams like “This Time/I Can’t Stop Loving You,” “Tiger Man,” and “Lady Madonna,” etc. Some of these songs were previously on this list, though much has come straight out of the blue. A recent example of one of the “lost” songs that has surfaced is Elvis’ acetate of “I’ll Never Stand In Your Way” (for which I had the following entry: ” 1/4/54; recorded at Sun later in 1954 or 55; supposedly bought by Sean O’Neal in 1993 and possibly sold to RCA in January, 1995″…it came out on the “Platinum” set in 1997). “Stagger Lee” and “Cotton Fields” are two recent examples of songs that graduated from the list to reality (via bootleg release of a 1970 rehearsal) and a few of the others that made the leap into reality and availability are mentioned elsewhere in this listing.
The slow version of “Stay Away,” also on this list previously, has since been released by bootleggers and by at least one of RCA-BMG’s international branches. Bootleggers and the archives of private collectors indicate that there’s even more, and it may turn out that rehearsals, in addition to taped studio jams, may provide the richest yield of songs we haven’t heard Elvis do in any form to date — “Alla En El Rancho Grande” and “Froggy Went A-Courtin'” are but two examples. One song that was on this list — “Wings of An Angel” (a.k.a. “The Prisoner’s Song”) — recently appeared on a bootleg, and was a studio jam from 1968. Elvis’ normal way of conducting business in the studio was to do a lot of jamming before formal recording and between takes — leading to him walking out of the studio in 1957 when an executive insisted it was about time Elvis quit messing around with gospel songs and get started on recording of the “Jailhouse Rock” soundtrack.
In 1977 RCA released the album “Moody Blue,” which included (more as “padding,” supposedly) the live songs “Little Darlin’,” “If You Love Me,” and “Unchained Melody,” as well as a re-release of the 3/20/74 Memphis version of “Let Me Be There.” Why they would do this if they had access to all the studio-recorded songs rumored to remain unreleased from the ’70s (for that matter, some that have subsequently been released by RCA) remains a mystery. “There’s A Fire Down Below,” for example, was recorded at the same sessions as “Way Down” (etc.) and it is possible Elvis recorded a vocal track, depending upon who you believe. The fact that RCA released such an album doesn’t give much credence to the possibility of a number of ’70s songs remaining unreleased. On the other hand, RCA’s release policies never did make a whole lot of sense. The same goes for the amateur-recorded “America, The Beautiful” and “Softly As I Leave You” released in 1978: it’s now looking like RCA has their hands (or can easily GET their hands) on studio-quality tapes made from the soundboard at many, if not most (all?) of Elvis’ concerts 1969-77. More and more of these excellent tapes are surfacing among collectors and on recent bootlegs — whether RCA had them in 1977 and 1978 is another story, perhaps, but they definitely have at least some of the tapes now and they must contain a wealth of unreleased performances and even the occasional “one-off” song like “Aubrey,” “You’re My Reason For Living,” or “When The Snow Is On The Roses.”
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A question that has puzzled Elvis fans through the years is whether he actually recorded the song ‘Tiger Man’ during his years at SUN.
The basic questions are
1. If Elvis DID NOT record ‘Tiger Man’ at SUN then why did he refer to it several times in concert as “The second song that I ever recorded, not too many people heard it”?
2. If Elvis DID record it, then why hasn’t any reference to it at SUN or proof of its existence been found?
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/Did-Elvis- ... t-Sun.html
The basic questions are
1. If Elvis DID NOT record ‘Tiger Man’ at SUN then why did he refer to it several times in concert as “The second song that I ever recorded, not too many people heard it”?
2. If Elvis DID record it, then why hasn’t any reference to it at SUN or proof of its existence been found?
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/Did-Elvis- ... t-Sun.html
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I don't keep track and don't have a full list, but Keith Flynn does: https://keithflynn.uk/Sweet-Angeline wrote: October 9th, 2025, 6:37 pm Do any of the import CDsold or new still contain unreleased music that still has not been officially released?? I would think in 2025 that number has become less and less over the years because of the FTD label, but does anyone keep track of this at all?? thanks
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I keep a massive Excel spreadsheet of this stuff, and there are still many songs that have appeared on bootlegs, but not officially.Sweet-Angeline wrote: October 9th, 2025, 6:37 pm Do any of the import CDsold or new still contain unreleased music that still has not been officially released?? I would think in 2025 that number has become less and less over the years because of the FTD label, but does anyone keep track of this at all?? thanks
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so I just checked something in the live concerts category (Madison label Cajun Tornado May 4 /75 afternoon show) and nothing listed???On Tape 1972 wrote: October 9th, 2025, 7:54 pmI don't keep track and don't have a full list, but Keith Flynn does: https://keithflynn.uk/Sweet-Angeline wrote: October 9th, 2025, 6:37 pm Do any of the import CDsold or new still contain unreleased music that still has not been officially released?? I would think in 2025 that number has become less and less over the years because of the FTD label, but does anyone keep track of this at all?? thanks
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Source: https://keithflynn.uk/essential_lists/c ... -1975.htmlSweet-Angeline wrote: October 10th, 2025, 10:29 amso I just checked something in the live concerts category (Madison label Cajun Tornado May 4 /75 afternoon show) and nothing listed???On Tape 1972 wrote: October 9th, 2025, 7:54 pmI don't keep track and don't have a full list, but Keith Flynn does: https://keithflynn.uk/Sweet-Angeline wrote: October 9th, 2025, 6:37 pm Do any of the import CDsold or new still contain unreleased music that still has not been officially released?? I would think in 2025 that number has become less and less over the years because of the FTD label, but does anyone keep track of this at all?? thanks
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my mistake can`t figure out why it was so hard to find the first timeOn Tape 1972 wrote: October 10th, 2025, 12:15 pmScreenshot 2025-10-10 at 19.14.22.pngSweet-Angeline wrote: October 10th, 2025, 10:29 amso I just checked something in the live concerts category (Madison label Cajun Tornado May 4 /75 afternoon show) and nothing listed???On Tape 1972 wrote: October 9th, 2025, 7:54 pmI don't keep track and don't have a full list, but Keith Flynn does: https://keithflynn.uk/Sweet-Angeline wrote: October 9th, 2025, 6:37 pm Do any of the import CDsold or new still contain unreleased music that still has not been officially released?? I would think in 2025 that number has become less and less over the years because of the FTD label, but does anyone keep track of this at all?? thanks
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I thin it's very likely that, with Elvis not being a historian of his own career (as opposed to many of us fans) probably got confused. And certainly lacked accuracy when talking about older songs sometimes (an example being him introducing The Wonder of You in 1975 as "a song we did 2 or 3 years ago").NinaFromCanadaEh wrote: October 9th, 2025, 7:27 pm A question that has puzzled Elvis fans through the years is whether he actually recorded the song ‘Tiger Man’ during his years at SUN.
The basic questions are
1. If Elvis DID NOT record ‘Tiger Man’ at SUN then why did he refer to it several times in concert as “The second song that I ever recorded, not too many people heard it”?
2. If Elvis DID record it, then why hasn’t any reference to it at SUN or proof of its existence been found?
https://www.elvisinfonet.com/Did-Elvis- ... t-Sun.html
He could be conflating Tiger Man with Mystery Train, or its possible that he DID record Tiger Man but Sam, opted to release Good Rockin Tonight instead and Tiger Man then got erased over.
Personally I hope the answer is that he confused things, because I'd hate to think that a Sun era take of Tiger Man was recorded but is now long gone!
I suppose we'll never know...
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He may well have sung it in the studio
the tape coulda been lost
recorded over at Sun
or just lost at RCA
the tape coulda been lost
recorded over at Sun
or just lost at RCA
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.Sweet-Angeline wrote: October 9th, 2025, 6:37 pm Do any of the import CDsold or new still contain unreleased music that still has not been officially released?? I would think in 2025 that number has become less and less over the years because of the FTD label, but does anyone keep track of this at all?? thanks
There appears to still be a number of the 1958 home recordings (from Juan Luis' collection) that have yet to (if ever) be released by Sony... as well as some from 1966...
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