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Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 14th, 2025, 6:19 am
by JohanD
JohnnyByeBye wrote: September 14th, 2025, 4:53 am Johan, I need to check if there is any indication on the dead wax of who mastered my green label HH. I'm not home right now but will back to you on that later.

As I'm sure you know,the problem with the original mix is that Elvis's vocal is way too loud. The master tapes are only 3 track (Elvis voc on one and then the rest of the band in 2 tracks (stereo). So in the orginal mix they just raised the Elvis voc track too high,as instructed by Parker. The voc was just too loud for me to be enjoyable. The arrangements and musicians on HH were good (the songs sometimes not), so I would have liked to hear them as well!

Luckily they corrected he mix for DF cd. I don't have any FTD versions but probably the mix in them is more balanced as well (?)
On the lates FTD 3cd set sessions, they redone the masters completely. It's still not what it should be, but it's milestones better then any version before (not counting the Double features).
But knowing that those newly done masters soon will turn up on this vinyl, it could be the best vinylversion so far!

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 14th, 2025, 10:05 am
by JohnnyByeBye
JohanD wrote: September 14th, 2025, 6:19 am On the lates FTD 3cd set sessions, they redone the masters completely. It's still not what it should be, but it's milestones better then any version before (not counting the Double features).
But knowing that those newly done masters soon will turn up on this vinyl, it could be the best vinylversion so far!
Looks mighty fine! That gatefold sleeve sure makes the release look impressive,even luxurious!

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 14th, 2025, 4:27 pm
by JohnnyByeBye
JohnnyByeBye wrote: September 14th, 2025, 4:53 am Johan, I need to check if there is any indication on the dead wax of who mastered my green label HH. I'm not home right now but will back to you on that later.
Johan,I need to apologise! I don't have a green label of HH anymore. :( I checked my record collection, and it isn't there. I'm pretty sure I sold it after the DF release came out when i got rid of some of my other green labels as well. I did that because I was able to replace them with older US pressings from the 60's via then new thing called Ebay.

After all this talk about RCA International pressings in this & the previous forum, I might pick it up if I find it for an reasonable price somewhere. Just to have it...not for listening :D

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 7:22 am
by Alexander72
JohanD wrote: September 12th, 2025, 7:45 am
Alexander72 wrote: September 12th, 2025, 4:15 am 20250615_142534.jpg

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Only How Great Thou Art is missing. I remember buying it but could not locate it when photographing the series.
Bilbobaggins wrote: September 12th, 2025, 3:36 am
Alexander72 wrote: September 12th, 2025, 2:39 am LSP4579Tan.jpg

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And again you show us a nice part of your collection, thank you! I don't have many "tans" in my collection. Two I am sure of are the Worldwide Gold Award Hits volumes 1 and 2 sets. Even today these are nice sets, in glorious mono.

I wouldn't mind having 1 minute of free shopping in your collection! ;-)

Keep 'em coming...
I know my wife would not mind ;)
Those are awesome Alexander!
About those you show here, i have 15 of them...but also others like "Images", some (newly compilated)Camdens from that time (80's) and other compilations by Bob.(Pretty sure you have them too) He was a true master of cutting and mastering, in a time where the technology wasn't what it is today.
Just one question for now, how is the soundquality on the International's Harem Holdiday?
It's the same mix as the US but from what I remember the channel separation is clearer and the loudness has been increased which make it sound a bit fresher. I guess that goes for many of the INTS releases. Haven't played HH for a while (not a record I regularly play to enjoy although I do not really dislike it) but maybe someone can do a sound comparison between various releases like was presented with LY and KC releases on FECC in the past? I have too little digital skills and can only trust my ears.

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 10:00 am
by JohanD
Alexander72 wrote: September 15th, 2025, 7:22 am
JohanD wrote: September 12th, 2025, 7:45 am
Alexander72 wrote: September 12th, 2025, 4:15 am 20250615_142534.jpg

20250615_142957.jpg

Only How Great Thou Art is missing. I remember buying it but could not locate it when photographing the series.
Bilbobaggins wrote: September 12th, 2025, 3:36 am
Alexander72 wrote: September 12th, 2025, 2:39 am LSP4579Tan.jpg

R213736Tan.jpg
And again you show us a nice part of your collection, thank you! I don't have many "tans" in my collection. Two I am sure of are the Worldwide Gold Award Hits volumes 1 and 2 sets. Even today these are nice sets, in glorious mono.

I wouldn't mind having 1 minute of free shopping in your collection! ;-)

Keep 'em coming...
I know my wife would not mind ;)
Those are awesome Alexander!
About those you show here, i have 15 of them...but also others like "Images", some (newly compilated)Camdens from that time (80's) and other compilations by Bob.(Pretty sure you have them too) He was a true master of cutting and mastering, in a time where the technology wasn't what it is today.
Just one question for now, how is the soundquality on the International's Harem Holdiday?
It's the same mix as the US but from what I remember the channel separation is clearer and the loudness has been increased which make it sound a bit fresher. I guess that goes for many of the INTS releases. Haven't played HH for a while (not a record I regularly play to enjoy although I do not really dislike it) but maybe someone can do a sound comparison between various releases like was presented with LY and KC releases on FECC in the past? I have too little digital skills and can only trust my ears.
Thanks for the info Alexander about that release!

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 10:56 am
by JohnnyByeBye
On FECC,I posted an article about a bunch of lp's that were pressed in Sweden around 1977-81. Most of my text was based on the excellent FTD book "How RCE brought Elvis to Europe". Along the years, I have bought many of them and that collecting them all still an ongoing project of mine.

Continuing on the same Nordic theme,this time I decided to post about official Elvis lp releases from another Nordic country, Finland. One of the reasons is that the list is very short and I believe my collection is complete :)

Since the 1950's, Elvis records were imported to Finland mainly from Germany. In some random cases, also pressings from other European countries were imported. Beginning in the 1970's, UK pressings started to be imported as well,and after Elvis's death, Camden and International pressing started to dominate the record store shelves, which I seemed to be the case in rest of Europe too. So there was no shortage of Elvis lp's, and the record industry did not see a point in making any Finnish pressings. But luckily for a collector,there were some exceptions. :)

Here is a list of Elvis lp's that were pressed in Finland, in chronological order:)

Elvis Gospels, NS 4115 (1980)
Made by K-Tel in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy (RCA's representative in Finland).
Issued on the budget K-Tel label. A beautiful sleeve artwork on this one. Like title suggests,contains a good,cohesive track list with songs from the three all-gospel albums that Elvis recorded in his lifetime plus a couple of additional inspirational tracks. The back sleeve has a text about the Finnish sleeve designer plus the Finnish printing company that printed the record.

Some (if not all) copies came with a beautiful large poster with the same 1961(?) b/w image as on the sleeve,and hype sticker in Finnish on the sleeve mentioning the poster. Complete with both the hype sticker and a poster, I would say that this lp is quite rare, and without them much easier to find.

This lp has been also issued in one of the Benelux countries if I remember correctly. I wonder if anyone knows whether those came with a poster as well?

Guitar Man, PL 13917 (1981)
Made by Ab Discophon Oy.
This is the usual orange label RCA Victor Guitar Man design that we all know of,almost a duplicate of a UK pressing. But the back of the sleeve says it was printed in Finland and label mentions Helsinki,Finland.

Love Songs, NE-1062 (1981?)
Made by K-Tel in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy.
Again, a K-Tel release, with text on the back of the sleeve with contact details of K-Tel in Finland. As this same title was also released in the UK, this seemed to be a successful release with many copies printed and easily found still today. Most copies are pretty beaten up which tells that "love songs" of Elvis sure had an appeal back then and this lp was spun quite a bit :D

Movie Songs, EM-7030 (1982)
Made by K-Tel in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy.
This is a unique release for Finland only,again in K-Tel label. In my opinion,the sleeve is very cool and has many pics from the 1968-69 era. Ironically,not containing even one movie photo! :D

The sleeve has hype texts in Finnish and again the back of the sleeve says it was made Finland.

Sentimental, SIN-1057 (1989)
Made by Euros in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy.
This one was released on more obscure record label,but clearly was done in cooperation with BMG. Contains pretty nice 70's track listing and a nice back sleeve that is using the same "letter" type of layout that 1976 lp "From Elvis Presley Boulevard" was using. That would suggest that there was some fan input when designing this one. A nice one and not that hard to find,either.

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 11:05 am
by JohnnyByeBye
Elvis Gospels continued

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 11:06 am
by JohnnyByeBye
Guitar Man

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 11:07 am
by JohnnyByeBye
Love Songs

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 11:07 am
by JohnnyByeBye
Movie Songs

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 15th, 2025, 11:08 am
by JohnnyByeBye
Sentimental

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 16th, 2025, 2:56 am
by Alexander72
Most have been released all over Europe through licensing deals, but it is remarkable to see that until the mid-80s each European country had its own production. By the mid-80s the official releases were centralized and pressed in Germany for the whole of Europe. Never saw the Finnish Movie Songs and Sentimental records before. Sentimental from 1989 was also released on CD I learned through Discogs. Both stunning releases I will have to put on my want-list :) Thanks for sharing JohnnyByeBye.

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 16th, 2025, 10:36 am
by JohanD
JohnnyByeBye wrote: September 15th, 2025, 10:56 am On FECC,I posted an article about a bunch of lp's that were pressed in Sweden around 1977-81. Most of my text was based on the excellent FTD book "How RCE brought Elvis to Europe". Along the years, I have bought many of them and that collecting them all till an ongoing project of mine.

Continuing on the same Nordic theme,this time I decided to post about official Elvis lp releases from another Nordic country, Finland. One of the reasons is that the list is very short and I believe my collection is complete :)

Since the 1950's, Elvis records were imported to Finland mainly from Germany. In some random cases, also pressings from other European countries were imported. Beginning in the 1970's, UK pressings started to be imported as well,and after Elvis's death, Camden and International pressing started to dominate the record store shelves, which I seemed to be the case in rest of Europe too. So there was no shortage of Elvis lp's, and the record industry did not see a point in making any Finnish pressings. But luckily for a collector,there were some exceptions. :)

Here is a list of Elvis lp's that were pressed in Finland, in chronological order:)

Elvis Gospels, NS 4115 (1980)
Made by K-Tel in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy (RCA's representative in Finland).
Issued on the budget K-Tel label. A beautiful sleeve artwork on this one. Like title suggests,contains a good,cohesive track list with songs from the three all-gospel albums that Elvis recorded in his lifetime plus a couple of additional inspritational tracks. The back sleeve has a text about the Finnish sleeve designer plus the Finnish printing company that printed the record.

Some (if not all) copies came with a beautiful large poster with the same 1961(?) b/w image as on the sleeve,and hype sticker in Finnish on the sleeve mentioning the poster. Complete with both the hype sticker and a poster, I would say that this lp is quite rare, and without them much easier to find.

This lp has been also issued in one of the Benelux countries if I remember correctly. I wonder if anyone knows whether those came with a poster as well?

Guitar Man, PL 13917 (1980)
Made by Ab Discophon Oy.
This is the usual orange label RCA Victor Guitar Man design that we all know of,aömost a duplicaye of a UK pressing. But the back of the sleeve says it was printed in Finland.

Love Songs, NE-1062 (1981?)
Made by K-Tel in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy.
Again, a K-Tel release, with text on the back of the sleeve with contact details of K-Tel in Finland. As this same title was also released in the UK, this seemed to be a successful release with many copies printed and easily found still today. Most copies are pretty beaten up which tells that "love songs" of Elvis sure had an appeal back then and this lp was spun quite a bit :D

Movie Songs, EM-7030 (1982)
Made by K-Tel in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy.
This is a unique release for Finland only,again in K-Tel label. In my opinion,the sleeve is very cool and has many pics from the 1968-69 era. Ironically,not containing even one movie photo! :D

The sleeve has hype texts in Finnish and again the back of the sleeve saysit was made Finland.

Sentimental, SIN-1057 (1989)
Made by Euros in cooperation with Ab Discophon Oy.
This one was released on more obscure record label,but clearly was done in cooperation with BMG. Contains pretty nice 70's track listing and a nice back sleeve that is using the same "letter" type of layout that 1976 lp "From Elvis Presley Boulevard" was using. That would suggest that there was some fan input when designing this one. A nice one and not not that hard to find,either.
To my suprise i have the same pressing as yours, thought from memory it was a Dutch one, but by looking at it now, it's the same as yours.
No hypesticker however or a poster like yours.
But something different was included, this A3 sized photocopy with text in Finish (since it's for the Elvis Presley fanclub of Finland), don't know what it says though... :-)

Love your 'Sentimental' version, great cover, nice tracklist, will look out for that one too!

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 16th, 2025, 2:46 pm
by londonflash
Alexander72 wrote: September 12th, 2025, 4:11 am
JohanD wrote: September 12th, 2025, 3:13 am Those are some great pressings Alexander, very nice to see!
Have some of the 'tan' versions, but i don't think any are rare. How do they come out soundwise?

At the previous forum there was nice topic about the British albums that where "cut" by Bob Jones/Boppin' Bob.
His work must be of the very best in the Elvis catalogue.
Last week i had (finaly) luck to find his 1981 "Loving you" version. But this version is not included on Discogs. On both sides the "Elec­tron­i­cally Re­processed Stereo" (wich is on other LY releases by him) is missing completely. Ofcourse they are all in glorious mono.
As for sound, if there is one analogue pressing of LY that MUST be in the collection, it's this one, it's awesome!
Yeah, that Boppin' Bob Jones thread was awesome, all sparked by LesterB. Has he been located over here yet? I must have his email somewhere so I will notify him. The Loving You INTS 5109 you just showed is hands down the best sounding Loving You on vinyl I probably ever heard. Clearness and channel separation are second to none. I am a sucker for these 1981 releases.

Almost all the 1981 Green Label RCA International releases sounded great, because of the mastering by Boppin' Bob Jones and Big Pete (Norman?), although I found the INTS release of NBC TV Special sound rather disappointing. Too bad all that research from FECC is gone. During the time we discussed the Green INTS label releases over there I was in the process of acquiring all these to have a complete series. A few months ago I finally succeeded.

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Amazing collection of Boppin' Bobs! I've got a few to go, but I'm not too far behind you.

I've sent Lester a text about the forum in case he'd like to join us here.

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 17th, 2025, 11:39 am
by AfoolSuchAsI.
The FTD is out i order the lp Harem Holliday FTD as nd the last tours vol 3 .
By Elvis Corner .

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 18th, 2025, 2:29 am
by Bilbobaggins
On the subject Boppin Bob Jones: He really did some great work. A lot of his work is found on the green labels, but let's not forget these two:

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The third volume wasn't mastered by Bob but by Dick Baxter at the BMG studios in New York.

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A great set of albums, then and even today. The first steps toward the FTD label. And the artwork is outstanding. So much better than most of the original LP covers during Elvis' lifetime.

These were exiting releases. We weren't spoiled yet with just about everything that still exists of Elvis' studio work. These were albums with much thought put into it, the tracklist was balanced, the sound was good, the artwork classy, no errors or typo's (as far as I know). Great!

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 18th, 2025, 3:22 am
by Colin.Bee
Bilbobaggins wrote: September 18th, 2025, 2:29 am On the subject Boppin Bob Jones: He really did some great work. A lot of his work is found on the green labels, but let's not forget these two:

Image

Image

The third volume wasn't mastered by Bob but by Dick Baxter at the BMG studios in New York.

Image

A great set of albums, then and even today. The first steps toward the FTD label. And the artwork is outstanding. So much better than most of the original LP covers during Elvis' lifetime.

These were exiting releases. We weren't spoiled yet with just about everything that still exists of Elvis' studio work. These were albums with much thought put into it, the tracklist was balanced, the sound was good, the artwork classy, no errors or typo's (as far as I know). Great!
I remember being very excited when these were released. They were like a big step up from the (also excellent) Legendary Performers series.

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 18th, 2025, 12:04 pm
by Bilbobaggins
I had the same feeling of excitement as you had Colin. Those were very good years, the late 80's and the 90's. These releases, the Double Features, Collector's Gold, etc etc. We still have to thank Ernst and his team for opening the vaults and taking care of Elvis' legacy. If it weren't for them, the greatest thrill for Elvis fans today might well be another potato-head Elvis.

Oh, and let's not forget all the great bootlegs that came out, like the There's Always Me series From Bilko, and many many others!

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 18th, 2025, 12:36 pm
by JohnnyByeBye
Bilbobaggins wrote: September 18th, 2025, 12:04 pm I had the same feeling of excitement as you had Colin. Those were very good years, the late 80's and the 90's. These releases, the Double Features, Collector's Gold, etc etc. We still have to thank Ernst and his team for opening the vaults and taking care of Elvis' legacy. If it weren't for them, the greatest thrill for Elvis fans today might well be another potato-head Elvis.
You really took the words out of my mouth. After years of "dry season", it was those exact releases that gave the thrill again to any fan of Elvis's music. For me it was the Collector's Gold box -no fills,just thrills. Cd full of unreleased live 69 material. I could not have hoped for more at the time :)

Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion

Posted: September 19th, 2025, 2:48 am
by Alexander72
Colin.Bee wrote: September 18th, 2025, 3:22 am
Bilbobaggins wrote: September 18th, 2025, 2:29 am On the subject Boppin Bob Jones: He really did some great work. A lot of his work is found on the green labels, but let's not forget these two:

Image

Image

The third volume wasn't mastered by Bob but by Dick Baxter at the BMG studios in New York.

Image

A great set of albums, then and even today. The first steps toward the FTD label. And the artwork is outstanding. So much better than most of the original LP covers during Elvis' lifetime.

These were exiting releases. We weren't spoiled yet with just about everything that still exists of Elvis' studio work. These were albums with much thought put into it, the tracklist was balanced, the sound was good, the artwork classy, no errors or typo's (as far as I know). Great!
I remember being very excited when these were released. They were like a big step up from the (also excellent) Legendary Performers series.
Those were gorgeous releases indeed. Elvis Stereo '57 still is my all time favorite Elvis vinyl. Still need to hunt down a copy of Volume 3 which I bought on cd back then, but still miss the vinyl. The BBJ mastering still sound unmatched on vinyl.