Re: Elvis vinyl related discussion
Posted: October 7th, 2025, 11:19 am
MBM put out some very classy vinyl for sure 
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Have the UK Elvis Country with bonus photo in my collection, never saw this French compilation before. Label is simular to this well-known French release: https://www.discogs.com/release/4433603 ... is-Presley and is apperently a budget label. Anymore releases on that label?AfoolSuchAsI. wrote: October 7th, 2025, 4:22 am 17598287472185461528002895462070.jpg17598287808265804470633998076084.jpg
Great lp s one frome France and Elvis Country UK original.
Bilbobaggins probably is right that RCA would sent mixed 2nd generation tapes to production facilities worldwide. From Elvis In Memphis was never mixed as a MONO album in the US so in this case the UK lacquer cutter had to "fold-down" the STEREO tape for a MONO record. I was really in awe when I first played the MONO record last week. JohnnyByeBye is so right: you can still make a hell of a difference in mastering as the Brits did. It's an excellent listening experience.Bilbobaggins wrote: October 7th, 2025, 7:16 amThank for the analysis!JohnnyByeBye wrote: October 7th, 2025, 6:59 amBilbo, I thought about this a bit. I don't think that the UK pressings can have different mixes of anything.Bilbobaggins wrote: October 6th, 2025, 7:35 am On the subject of mono mixes, if my information is solid... (So please correct me if I am wrong).
Period of real dedicated mono mixes
1954 - 1968:
RCA made monomixes of (all?) Elvis recordings until about the end of 1968.This means that the mono versions were not simply "fold-downs" (stereo merged into mono), but mixed versions with sometimes noticeable differences in balance, EQ, dynamics etc.
Before 1969 or so,the final mix was done during recording session. My guess is that in the Elvis world,recording systems with more than 3 tracks were used in the Memphis -69 sessions for the first time.
Up until then the systems were basically 3 tracks:
1.
2&3: the rest of the musicians mixed to 2 tracks, which were used as left and right channel and therefore created a stereo image.
In the fifties,everything was mixed during the session,even Elvis's vocal. So you could not separate it from the band after the session. And Let's leave the binaural backup tapes out of this discussion...
In order to "mix" these afterwards, it would mean that you would need the multrack 3-track tapes and even then you can only mix the balance of Elvis vs. Rest of the instruments and vocals.
And I'm pretty sure that RCA did not send the original 3-track session tapes or even copies of them to the UK for remixing
So, the mono and stereo releases could have had different mastering. That means that the equalization,limiting and compression settings could have been different. For a listener it might seem like a certain instrument is heard differently,but that's because every instrument (and vocal) is produced with certain frequenzies and if those frequenzies are emphazised in the mastering process, the instruments/vocals in those frequenzies are heard louder. And vice versa.
You are very right. In my post about the mono mixes I was referring to the mixes made in the US. And these mixes were sent out to pressing plants in the rest of the world. The tapes sent were 2nd generation copies at best. In the UK, they were definitely remastered to the "UK taste" in sound. At least in the 50's and early 60's.
Correct... as it's a 10S and rigid, it's a '68 Hollywood pressing. You should also see an H in the runout...Bilbobaggins wrote: October 9th, 2025, 8:42 am Today I went to a small local vinyl (and beer) store to buy me some protective outer sleeves. Taking a quick look around I saw a US pressing of "Elvis 68 NBC TV Special" in a box with 2nd hand vinyl. Looking at the vinyl there wasn't the faintest sign of a hairline to be seen. So I took it home and gave it a quick clean. It sounds NM to me. If I am not mistaken it is a 1968 Hollywood pressing.
Indeed, there is a H on the runout.elvis-fan wrote: October 9th, 2025, 12:47 pmCorrect... as it's a 10S and rigid, it's a '68 Hollywood pressing. You should also see an H in the runout...Bilbobaggins wrote: October 9th, 2025, 8:42 am Today I went to a small local vinyl (and beer) store to buy me some protective outer sleeves. Taking a quick look around I saw a US pressing of "Elvis 68 NBC TV Special" in a box with 2nd hand vinyl. Looking at the vinyl there wasn't the faintest sign of a hairline to be seen. So I took it home and gave it a quick clean. It sounds NM to me. If I am not mistaken it is a 1968 Hollywood pressing.
Nice find!
Side 1: WPRM 8051 10S Hcolonel snow wrote: October 9th, 2025, 2:26 pm What is the complete code in the lead-out groove?
After pressing thousands of records a new mold was used for the next serie of pressings.
colonel snow
That's a marvelous find @Bilbobaggins. Would be a sin to leave that one in the bin (That's my motto these daysBilbobaggins wrote: October 9th, 2025, 2:31 pmSide 1: WPRM 8051 10S Hcolonel snow wrote: October 9th, 2025, 2:26 pm What is the complete code in the lead-out groove?
After pressing thousands of records a new mold was used for the next serie of pressings.
colonel snow
Side 2: WPRM 8052 9S H
Explanation:Bilbobaggins wrote: October 9th, 2025, 2:31 pmSide 1: WPRM 8051 10S Hcolonel snow wrote: October 9th, 2025, 2:26 pm What is the complete code in the lead-out groove?
After pressing thousands of records a new mold was used for the next serie of pressings.
colonel snow
Side 2: WPRM 8052 9S H
My apologies. Alexander. You're right, on the rarity of the 1964 White Top version. Please check your PM as I have a lead on another one you have been looking for.Alexander72 wrote: October 6th, 2025, 1:32 amIt Happened At The Worlds Fair 1964 Black Label White Top available at decent prices? Maybe if you live in the US and while shopping at thrift stores, garage sales etc but haven't seen one for ages on Ebay or Discogs. Oh well, just like with all hard to find reissues: patience and dedication are the name of the gameMike C wrote: October 5th, 2025, 10:26 amIf you are looking for an LSP of It Happened At The World's Fair, they are definitely out here at decent prices. According to Elvisrecords.com, there was never a monaural reissue of this soundtrack LP since it was a poor seller.Alexander72 wrote: October 5th, 2025, 3:43 am
As the monaurals were phased out in 1964 onwards these are especially hard to find. I am still looking for:
- Something For Everybody (LPM)
- Pot Luck (LPM)
- Girls Girls Girls (LPM)
- It Happened At The Worlds Fair (LSP)
All other LPM/ LSPs on Black Label White Top are covered although some may deserve an upgrade.
Of the other three LPMs you are looking for, I'd say Something for Everybody is the easiest to locate. Seen several copies the last few months.
Good point about the phasing out of the monaurals after 1964.![]()
However do not hesitate to notify me if you come across one. Would really appreciate that![]()
Wish the seller would post to the US. I'd put on a bid.The Warder wrote: October 1st, 2025, 6:30 am I noticed this on eBay think it’s UK seller, they have for sale ‘Gold Records Vol 4 rare Never Ending Sleeve’.
According to the description, I don’t think the seller realise its rarity amongst collectors. I’d have it myself but I’ve already got a copy. Plus I’m at that stage of life where I’m wanting to slim down my collection due to space.
Link:
https://ebay.us/m/PR4fD6
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Redemption have put out some nice vinyl and some CD sets, other vinyl are;LesterB wrote: October 11th, 2025, 8:29 am R-30759639-1716473273-8210.jpg
Just received this in the post today. It sounds excellent and has very little studio chatter so plays like an album - really nice!
It's probably not a matter of the seller's unwillingness, but almost all European postal companies have stopped shipping packages to the US because it's unclear how imposed tariffs should be handled. BTW: the UK MONO I posted here before has the Never Ending cover.Mike C wrote: October 11th, 2025, 11:51 amWish the seller would post to the US. I'd put on a bid.The Warder wrote: October 1st, 2025, 6:30 am I noticed this on eBay think it’s UK seller, they have for sale ‘Gold Records Vol 4 rare Never Ending Sleeve’.
According to the description, I don’t think the seller realise its rarity amongst collectors. I’d have it myself but I’ve already got a copy. Plus I’m at that stage of life where I’m wanting to slim down my collection due to space.
Link:
https://ebay.us/m/PR4fD6
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